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RM #1, Yoghurt -> Yogurt, Abandoned discussion; no consensus, 12 May 2005, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 1#Requested move
RM #2, Yoghurt -> Yogurt, Move to Yogurt, 10 October 2006, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 2#"buttermilk" as yogurt?
RM #3, Yoghurt -> Yogurt Revisited, no consensus, defaulting to keep at Yoghurt., 26 October 2006, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 2#Requested move revisited
RM #4, Yoghurt -> Yogurt , No consensus, 21 May 2007, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 3#Naming poll
RM #5, Yoghurt -> Yogurt , "Not enough consensus"; page not moved, 21 June 2009, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 5#Requested move
RM #6, Yoghurt -> Yogurt , Delisted, 6 July 2009, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 5#No Consensus
RM #7, Yoghurt -> Yogurt, No consensus, 27 October 2011, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 5#Move page to Yogurt
RM #8, Yoghurt -> Yogurt, Moved, 10 December 2011, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 6#Move page to yogurt

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Yogurt vs "curds"

It would be nice to have similarities and differences between yogurt and curds (as in curds and whey). Curds are sometimes made by adding rennet, but can also be made by bacterial fermentation of fresh milk. Differences would seem to include more careful control of the bacterial culture and the temperature, but in both pocesses the milk sugar (lactose) is converted to lactic acid, lowering the pH and coagulating the non-whey proteins. Eaberry (talk) 17:47, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The article in History section states: 'Isaac Carasso industrialized the production of yogurt. In 1919, Carasso, who was from Ottoman Salonika', however I suggest to be changed to: "Isaac Carasso industrialized the production of yogurt. In 1919, Carasso, who was from Salonika'. Revised the description of Isaac Carasso's origin. Removed the specific mention of 'Ottoman Salonika' to focus on the geographical location (Salonika/Thessaloniki) without implying historical or cultural influences that are not essential to the context of his yogurt business. The goal is to present factual information pertinent to Carasso's business endeavors without unnecessary historical connotations. Neuron1989 (talk) 20:42, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done, although with further editing and a source. Zefr (talk) 23:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oxygala is a type of curd and has no direct connection with the origins of yoghurt

The theory of 'oxygala is the origin of yoghurt' needs to be proven otherwise it distorts the flow of the article. The history section should start with the first written or historically valid arguments. There are many other curd types invented or discovered different parts of the world independently, however these either do not follow the same production steps with yoghurt or there is no information about the process at all. Oxygala mention should be moved to later stages in the article, and should not be the very first part of the history section unless it's clearly validated: "The cuisine of ancient Greece included a dairy product known as oxygala (οξύγαλα) which was a form of yogurt. Galen (AD 129 – c. 200/c. 216) mentioned that oxygala was consumed with honey, similar to the way thickened Greek yogurt is eaten today." 50kalibre (talk) 09:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although I agree with you that the connection between oxygala and yogurt is not well-established, it is the position taken by multiple reliable sources cited in the article, which is what we have to rely on. If you can find RS which question this connection, we should add those to the article.

As for oxygala being a type of "curd", that word is itself rather ambiguous. It can mean cheese curd or even yogurt. --Macrakis (talk) 20:34, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oxygala is probably Teleme. Yogurt is not consumed with honey but teleme is consumed with honey. Teleme is made with the help of figs which is native to the Medditerian sea regions. 84.40.106.211 (talk) 13:39, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citation needed for cows milk claim

In the opening paragraph, there is a claim that yogurt is most commonly made with cow's milk. This may be true, but this may also be a western perspective that is not true worldwide. It would be good to either verify the claim that cow's milk is indeed the most common source of yogurt, or to remove the claim. PeppersGhostRealm (talk) 15:41, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

Yogurt/yoghurt could be mentioned in the summary at top of page?? 109.78.74.143 (talk) 10:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]